Comments on: More “Eat, Pray, Love” http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/ Dr. Edward Morbius: Guilty! Guilty! My evil self is at that door, and I have no power to stop it! (Forbidden Planet) Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:32:49 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Rob http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11805 Rob Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:47:37 +0000 http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11805 MoI, I think yours is the more eloquent voice in these matters, but it's nice to get such a vote of confidence that my own thoughts would be in any way useful. As it is, the've been percolating for some time and I'm still not satisfied. I guess that's why they call it a 'problem', eh? :) But, you never know. One day when I'm feeling cocky, maybe I'll give it a shot. In the meantime, I'll keep hanging out here, when I'm not writing about my favourite records. MoI,

I think yours is the more eloquent voice in these matters, but it’s nice to get such a vote of confidence that my own thoughts would be in any way useful. As it is, the’ve been percolating for some time and I’m still not satisfied. I guess that’s why they call it a ‘problem’, eh? :)

But, you never know. One day when I’m feeling cocky, maybe I’ll give it a shot. In the meantime, I’ll keep hanging out here, when I’m not writing about my favourite records.

]]> By: mysteryofiniquity http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11792 mysteryofiniquity Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:31:17 +0000 http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11792 Rob, You know I also have a problem with that. But, most people do I think. Yes, that would be another discussion. Shall you blog about it or shall I? :-) Rob,
You know I also have a problem with that. But, most people do I think. Yes, that would be another discussion. Shall you blog about it or shall I? :-)

]]> By: Rob http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11778 Rob Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:18:00 +0000 http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11778 There is a certain beauty in mystery, I agree. But, I can see why materialists get exasperated by the idea of faith; it’s easy to say that we don’t know something because our brains aren’t big enough, and to ‘pretend’ as if something is true when it might not really be, based on something which can’t be expressed or pointed to by material means. My problem is not that I can’t prove that there is something “out there”. I actually have relinquished my responsibility over that information as it is what it is (or isn’t, as the case may be) whether I believe in it or not. No. My problem is a common one, which I believe is one of the key reasons why these systems have been set up in the first place; the Problem of Evil. But, that’s another discussion entirely. There is a certain beauty in mystery, I agree. But, I can see why materialists get exasperated by the idea of faith; it’s easy to say that we don’t know something because our brains aren’t big enough, and to ‘pretend’ as if something is true when it might not really be, based on something which can’t be expressed or pointed to by material means. My problem is not that I can’t prove that there is something “out there”. I actually have relinquished my responsibility over that information as it is what it is (or isn’t, as the case may be) whether I believe in it or not. No. My problem is a common one, which I believe is one of the key reasons why these systems have been set up in the first place; the Problem of Evil. But, that’s another discussion entirely.

]]> By: mysteryofiniquity http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11777 mysteryofiniquity Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:28:55 +0000 http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11777 Rob, I like that it defies any systemic explanation. Kind of like Malcolm's explanation of chaos theory in Jurassic Park. Nothing is predictable, but we always try to make it so. Humans! Sheesh! :-) Rob,

I like that it defies any systemic explanation. Kind of like Malcolm’s explanation of chaos theory in Jurassic Park. Nothing is predictable, but we always try to make it so. Humans! Sheesh! :-)

]]> By: Rob http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11772 Rob Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:36:14 +0000 http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11772 I think that there is fundamental frustration humanity has about the idea of eternity, while being bound in nearly every way by the finite. We’re interested in the idea of existence and what it means, if it means anything. But, we can put our fingers on it. I like the ‘I Want God’ section of the quote you cited. It kind of reminds me of the way a young child expresses herself; when she has a need but can’t quite communicate it, with only a limited vocabulary at her disposal. Despite our education, background, or whatever, I think we all have a limited vocabulary when it comes to the nature of existence by our very natures as finite creatures. It is one of the realities of being alive, it seems. The whole thing can be very disorienting, which is why systems which claim to make sense of it all are so compelling, be they science or religion. But, if there is some ongoing eternal nature of the universe in play, and we’re somehow a part of it, the very nature of it will defy any system. What a pain. I think that there is fundamental frustration humanity has about the idea of eternity, while being bound in nearly every way by the finite. We’re interested in the idea of existence and what it means, if it means anything. But, we can put our fingers on it.

I like the ‘I Want God’ section of the quote you cited. It kind of reminds me of the way a young child expresses herself; when she has a need but can’t quite communicate it, with only a limited vocabulary at her disposal. Despite our education, background, or whatever, I think we all have a limited vocabulary when it comes to the nature of existence by our very natures as finite creatures. It is one of the realities of being alive, it seems.

The whole thing can be very disorienting, which is why systems which claim to make sense of it all are so compelling, be they science or religion. But, if there is some ongoing eternal nature of the universe in play, and we’re somehow a part of it, the very nature of it will defy any system.

What a pain.

]]> By: mysteryofiniquity http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11769 mysteryofiniquity Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:17:26 +0000 http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11769 Donald, This is true. A glimpse is good. A full picture perhaps might be horrifying! Thanks for the comment! Donald,

This is true. A glimpse is good. A full picture perhaps might be horrifying! Thanks for the comment!

]]> By: Donald http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11768 Donald Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:17:05 +0000 http://mysteryofiniquity.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/more-eat-pray-love/#comment-11768 <i>"Some very excellent, decent, and loving people exist on faith, which to me is just another word for hope and if you kill hope in a society….well we can see the fallout of that all around us."</i> Excellent point. I suppose that faith is a kind of hope, maybe combined with a glimpse of the knowledge of our true selves. “Some very excellent, decent, and loving people exist on faith, which to me is just another word for hope and if you kill hope in a society….well we can see the fallout of that all around us.”

Excellent point.

I suppose that faith is a kind of hope, maybe combined with a glimpse of the knowledge of our true selves.

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