Believers Not Necessarily Less Rational

I’ve not posted because I’ve been pondering this all week and ruminating about what it is I actually believe on a daily “rubber meets the road” basis. With all the yelling and screaming going on from both sides of the debate, one has to step back once in a while and get perspective.


14 thoughts on “Believers Not Necessarily Less Rational

  1. It only seems logical to me that one should spend the vast majority of their thoughts on exploring their personal beliefs (as opposed to someone else’s) and step back into the debates for perspective only on an occassional basis.

    I tend to get easily overwhelmed by these debates and unabashed displays of superior intellect. Gardens, pets, children, friends … these are where real life takes place and where your beliefs actually have any impact. You can thoerize until you the cows come home but then it’s time to feed and care for the cows, you know?

    A little wisdom from my inferior intellect. :/

  2. Hi,

    Thank you for the discussion.

    Marge… indeed our beliefs have impact in “gardens, pets, children, friends”, but I’m not so sure about “real life” taking place there.

    I’m inclined to believe that everything we see is an illusion. What we cannot see– thousands of angels camped about– a spiritual warfare on the battleground of our hearts– is reality.

    My two cents,

  3. Marge stole my “cow” line. Rats, now what am I going to say? (Haven’t read the article yet, but I will.) ๐Ÿ™‚

  4. pauljub,

    I don’t buy the “everything we see is an illusion” argument. If that were true, we should just park our butts in a recliner right now and not budge. Why work? Why make love? Why raise our kids? It’s not real after all. Nope, I opt for the cows.

  5. I’ll take my tangible reality, thanks. Be that cows or housework.

    Sure there is a spiritual reality and it is not to be taken lightly but each person has their own timing and individual journey to enlightenment in that regard. When we spend too much time contemplating another’s postulations and not enough on our own, we lose spiritual ground.

  6. For myself, I find that debates and discussions help me figure out what it is I really believe. Just as how the best way to learn something is often to teach it, in trying to form and justify my beliefs an ways that are easy to understand, I often get a new understanding of what I am saying.

    Yes, it can get very theoretical and disconnected from actual practice, but it can also inform what we choose to do and how we choose to do it. For example, if I believed that the destruction of this world was no big loss because it would be replaced by a better one after an imminent Judgement Day, I probably wouldn’t spend so much time and energy recycling and composting.

  7. Quester,

    I prefer the teaching method. Debates sometimes degenerate into my degree and experience is bigger than yours in the attempt to be “right.” But for some it does help. Your point about Judgment Day is well taken. On the other hand, believing in a cosmic battle between “Good” and “Evil” pretty much eliminates action as well. Siding up on that is also a waste of time.

  8. Hey, MOI!

    I haven’t commented in quite some time – taking a break from those debates… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    As you probably know, I believe in the Judgment Day and the cosmic battle between ‘good’ and ‘evil’ and taking care of the cows that always return home…Life is too rich to choose not to participate. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I’ve often thought – since the question has come up through these debates – that I would sit in my recliner and choose not to participate if I had an atheistic viewpoint. The beginning premise of the article – it’s too depressing to contemplate – doesn’t keep me from thinking it through. I desire to know as much as I can, that’s part of the joy of life, for me.

    How is it some of us find fulfillment in God and can’t understand how everyone else doesn’t, and others of us find fulfillment in no god and can’t understand how everyone else doesn’t? It’s a pickle that keeps drawing me back into the debate.

  9. Michelle,

    “How is it some of us find fulfillment in God and canโ€™t understand how everyone else doesnโ€™t, and others of us find fulfillment in no god and canโ€™t understand how everyone else doesnโ€™t?”

    Yes, how is it? It’s funny, but each side seems lost in their own thoughts and circumstances, but I suppose that’s how we are made. I swim out of one into the other and back again, so I’m really no help.

    It’s good to see you over here! ๐Ÿ™‚

  10. Good to be back…as I said, I need the stimulation. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Take care of yourself, you don’t sound too healthy these days. Menopause is hell!

  11. Me too, I assumed too much. Everyone (the women in my life) tries to tell me that’s what I’m experiencing, but the doctors have said otherwise – yet, still no diagnosis.

    Pain is hard to endure, especially when you can’t find the cause. If possible, my advice (coming from one who lives with chronic pain plus migraines about twice a week) slow down – if at all possible, slow down. I think as women we try to do too much, we see all that needs doing, and we can’t leave it. I think it’s an American symptom of wanting too much…but I digress. Some people would say I live in a mess, but it’s all I can do for now. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    Don’t mean to sound so down – a migraine is coming on. I think I’ll take my own advice and go cocoon myself under the covers. Blessings to you, Mystery. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  12. Michelle,

    Blessings to you as well. I think I need to take your advice too. I’m sorry about the migraines. That must be a bite. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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