Do As Your Told!

Do you really disagree with what the Tea Party stands for, or do you hate it because you are told to? I honestly want to know. I’m not talking about individuals who corrupt a party’s stance for their own ends. I’m talking about the mission statement.

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5 thoughts on “Do As Your Told!

  1. Does their mission statement really matter, if they’re pursuing something else?
    It seems your suggestion is similar to the No True Scotsman fallacy.

    We can’t agree or disagree with a movement because of what it _claims_ to stand for, we have to judge it on what it _demonstrates_ it stands for.

    But for the sake of completeness: No, I don’t support their position on taxation or free markets.

    There is no “invisible hand” in a free market that will magically dampen market fluctuations to protect people. “Pure Capitalism” is no more functional that “Pure Communism.” The world is more complicated than that, and we need a more complicated solution.

    Americans do not have a functional system of taxation- crumbling infrastructure and a growing chasm between rich and poor demonstrate that – but the solution is not to reduce taxes further. Historically, the highest rates of increasing personal quality of life occurred in America when the rich were taxed the most. I think this might have something to do with the degree to which such tax structures maintained a small separation between the financial outlook of rich, poor & middle class.

  2. You wrote: “We can’t agree or disagree with a movement because of what it _claims_ to stand for, we have to judge it on what it _demonstrates_ it stands for.”

    I would agree with this wholeheartedly, which makes me wonder why we are offered “party platforms” at all? A movement is made up of many, many members. I suppose watching those members and deciding how they act is better than working for a particular goal? Hmmm. No wonder I’m not going to follow politics anymore. I do agree with the crumbling infrastructure and chasm between rich and poor. I also believe that unchecked rampant capitalism will only make these things worse. No one seems interested in the common good. It’s what’s best for me and mine and profit.

    Thanks for the comment.

  3. “I think this might
    have something to do with the degree to which such tax structures maintained a small
    separation between the financial outlook of rich, poor & middle class.”

    Thanks for this. We abandon some kind of broad consensus at our peril. Labels are unimportant. Even if the plight of the poor were a matter of indifference, increasing levels of poverty, division and resentment will lead to a society where those who have will need to resort to ever more repressive tactics in order to hold onto it. And repression never works in the long run. Sooner or later, the lid blows off, and those perceived to be the instigators of repression are slaughtered by the angry and the dispossessed.

    It’s polarisation that leads to apocalyps, promoted by those who put ideological confrontation ahead of a sensible and sustainable outcome.

    Here in the UK, we’re experimenting with coalition government. It’s messy and imperfect of course, but it has to be preferable to doctrinaire politics, designed to further the interests of particular groups. Unenlightened self-interest, or societies without a social conscience are, in my view, nasty places to live in, and doomed. I’m sure the rich don’t really wante to live insecure gated communities from which they dare not go out unprotected. We mustn’t condemn our grand children to this kind of life.

  4. haven’t read the comments, but: my admittedly shaky understanding is that the baseline tea party statements aren’t too bad, but the radicals calling themselves tea party on t.v. are freaking scary and mortally moronic. I also worry that the people on t.v. are the people who might get office.

  5. And this is what’s worrisome. Why make statements at all for any party? All statements sound good, but it’s the individuals that make it worse. Of course you know they pick the worst of the worst to see on television, right?

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